"Ron Calls on his years of experience....and freezes at the controls" (internerdstuff)
09/26/2015 at 00:44 • Filed to: None
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"Ron Calls on his years of experience....and freezes at the controls" (internerdstuff)
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Not sure this has been linked already?
I must say i emphatically disagree with his explanation!!In no particular order:
a)So what if the clutch needs a servo!I can still feel the bite point.And anyway who says a clutch is the deciding factor of the manual trans?
b)“all the systems need dialog with each other,thus a clutch is impossible” Im sure this is pure BS.They can easily fit sensors to detect when the clutch is disengaged.Even if they need to be actual driveline torque sensors,they can stil do it!
c) “auto clutch needed for car control” Similar to above but slightly more true.Traction control systems (or perhaps think specifically slide control) would be trickier when a manual clutch is fitted but certainly not much more so. They could write software that takes into account the break in power from a gearchange.
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RallyWrench
> Ron Calls on his years of experience....and freezes at the controls
09/26/2015 at 00:55 |
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Unfortunately, it’s much simpler than that: Nobody buys them at that level.
PS9
> Ron Calls on his years of experience....and freezes at the controls
09/26/2015 at 07:41 |
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I think you misunderstand him at a couple of points.
A) He didn’t say ‘A clutch needs a servo’. He said, ‘ Remember, when you put a servo system between your feet and the clutch, you have already put a filter in there.’ It isn’t that a manual transmission requires a servo now. It’s that today’s manual drivers do not want to provide all of the force in engaging and disengaging the clutch. To do this, we must put a filter between the driver and the car here, and doing that calls into question the ‘purity of connection between man and machine’ argument that comes up when people talk about the disappearance of manuals from the market place.
B) He didn’t say, ‘all the systems need dialog with each other,thus a clutch is impossible’. He said, ‘ If you want to control the chassis, you must control the power. If you want to control the power, the clutch must be under the control of the brain of the car, not your brain. ’ Complete chassis control is something a modern supercar is expected to have (by people who actually buy them, not the people who only argue about them on the internet). To get that, we have to have complete power control. Complete power control means the computer is the one that must control the clutch now. Chassis control isn’t impossible with a manual, but it will always be suboptimal relative to a non-manual on a car like this; like it or lump it, the computer will have far more connection to the car than you will, will react faster than you can, and will be more consistent then you could ever hope to be. This is what Lamborghini’s customers expect from the company, so they must deliver.